Aragorn327 posted:Might as well voice the other side of that--rather than having titles mark out mods from everyone else, why not make colors/vip stand out again? Leave actual VIPs and mark the others with soley titles.
Robimus posted:And thats really the crux of the situation with the VIP interaction as far as I can see it. I can totally identify with why an author would have difficultly chatting about their book in a thread where every second post is giving a decidedly negative viewpoint, hurling veiled insults, sarcastic jokes and other hurtful behavior. And thats how Lit is, even if some of the worst offences are removed, the only way to effectively make a VIP feel welcome would be to disallow the user base their individual opinions about the authors work. That simply is not going to happen. A staff sponsered interveiw with questions submitted by the users is a much more friendly way to interact with the VIP's for the board in general. Don't get me wrong, I love the interaction I've personally had with some of the VIP's over the past year and a half. I'd love for that to continue, but I feel in many cases respect for a VIP only goes so far as how well their most recent body of work is received by the general user base. Someone loved now might well not be a year from now and thus that VIP might no longer wish to participate as an active poster at that point. This is simply reality in Lit as I see it, not an effort to put down our Mod team or really even critize them in any way. If Lit is going to continue to be a place where a user can vigerously voice their opinions, as I think it should be, its going to be tough to make the VIP's feel continually welcome.
Sinrebirth posted:The EUC, Lit, SWC and RPF have continued in a less varying manner because the areas are linked by Mods and posters who all know each other and coordinate. Some posters are provincial, yes, but there is a massive core of people who cross the borders between the four areas daily. We need to cultivate that overall community.
harpuah posted:I also post in Amph everyday. I'm hosting a game there. I didn't bring up my point because I have a beef with Amph. I think bringing it into JCC would be benificial because I know there are music (film, lit, and art as well... I mention music because it's my "thing") fans in JCC. I post in both places. Amph does move slowly. If you really take a look, the place mainly cinsists of "list threads" found in various places. Now, as you may or may not know, I also have a thing for list threads (I've done my fair share ). Anyway... if you look at these threads, they move very slowly. Each update generates maybe three or four responses, the thread sinks, and Zaz bumps it by posting "I've never read, seen, heard this." I did a JC top 100 albums thread in both JCC and Amph. The JCC thread generated 1500 posts, and had a large amount of people following it. In the JCC thread, I posted five albums per day. It took 20 days to get to number one, and 1500 posts were generated. In the Amph thread , I posted one album per day, to allow for more in depth conversation. Well, about three people posted per album. It took one hundred days to make it to number one, and about 675 posts were generated (100 of them mine). I really think Amph could use the JCC. Fluff posters generally stay out of dedicated threads. I think the JCC could use more music / etc threads. I also think Amph could use some more fun. I think it could benefit both places. Again, I love Amph, I adore Zaz. He really is one of the more dedicated mods out there. He's constantly updating thread titles to accomodate the many many many list threads. He's always upping threads, attempting to generate discussion. I think he would be great in a livlier forum. All the work he does to only have the thread generate a few posts in response seems such a waste. ophelia posted:Well, the main reason that having a few hundred low-traffic boards is undesirable is that people who want to have a discussion are less likely to connect. If you have one Harry Potter thread in JCC, and it's languishing with 3 or 4 posters, plus another one in Apmh, which is languishing with 3 or 4 posters, plus another one in SFF with only 1 or 2, why not combine them all and have a halfway-decent discussion? That's exactly what I'm saying. I also agree with Rhonda. Combining the Star Wars forums may be a wise choice. Saying that PT and OT users can't post together is silly. What about the Saga forum? They seem to pull it off, and really, catering to that sort of ridiculous behaviour is goofy as all hell. Combining the SFF boards should most definitely happen. As Tim said, it really is ludicrous to have them seperate.
ophelia posted:Well, the main reason that having a few hundred low-traffic boards is undesirable is that people who want to have a discussion are less likely to connect. If you have one Harry Potter thread in JCC, and it's languishing with 3 or 4 posters, plus another one in Apmh, which is languishing with 3 or 4 posters, plus another one in SFF with only 1 or 2, why not combine them all and have a halfway-decent discussion?
Dingo posted:Sorry, but this just isn't something that we should blithely accept. We were able to have people post about any opinion they wanted and still have nearly every single writer come along and post on these forums a few years ago. It's not a case of professionals not liking people who don't like their work (because as one author I know put it, if they are still buying the books then they can have whatever opinion they want), it's exactly what has been specifically highlighted above - the way in which people conduct themselves. It's why I, and a few other long-time Lit patrons, refuse to go back in there anymore. Despite supposed repeated attempts to 'clean up' the atmosphere in Lit, things have not significantly changed. If people want to get more authors here in an effort to help boost the rep of these boards back to where they were, then they have to realise that saying "Author X is ruining Star Wars", "Author Y is just out to pimp their own characters over the uber-cool OT characters", or "Author Z only does things to deliberately screw with the fans/continuity/character A/etc." isn't on and a level of decorum and decency isn't too much to ask for. But what do I know about getting authors to post on these forums? Sinrebirth posted:The EUC, Lit, SWC and RPF have continued in a less varying manner because the areas are linked by Mods and posters who all know each other and coordinate. Some posters are provincial, yes, but there is a massive core of people who cross the borders between the four areas daily. We need to cultivate that overall community. Just want to point out that Sinre has hit an important point on the head here. Despite my feelings on the state of it, Lit still has what it always had over all the other forums, and that's a strong core of people who dealt with each other despite any differences.
darth_frared posted: the YJCC is really very fast for me, and it operates mostly when i'm asleep so there's no use for me joining in anyway. i kind of don't want to lose the amphitheatre to the JCC because that seems to be all silliness and in-jokes, which is fine but i'm continually late to the party.
AaylaSecurOWNED posted:darth_frared posted: the YJCC is really very fast for me, and it operates mostly when i'm asleep so there's no use for me joining in anyway. i kind of don't want to lose the amphitheatre to the JCC because that seems to be all silliness and in-jokes, which is fine but i'm continually late to the party. Speed of the JCC is one thing. It's much, much slower these days, but still faster than most other forums, so I can see it being a problem. But the people who continually say (and it's not just you frared) that JCC is only silliness and in-jokes seems to me just to be riding the coattails of the same old criticism and not really looking at JCC. Because in-jokes and silliness, while common, are not the majority of the posts.