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Date Posted: 6/18/02 6:19pm Subject: RE: Rainbow dress
Hi everyone! I'm new to this forum (just discovered it today, in fact!) and have been reading posts like crazy. happy I too am planning on making the rainbow dress, and this thread has both encouraged and intimidated me. wink I'm not exactly a beginning sewer, as I've made costumes for shows before, but I've never tackled something as complex as this dress on my own. But the info in this thread is just invaluable-- I shudder to think how I might have tried to make the dress if I hadn't read all of the posts here!

At any rate, I have the whole summer (and then some) to do it, and I plan to be in this forum plenty, checking out links and getting advice! <g>

 

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Date Posted: 6/18/02 11:57pm Subject: RE: Rainbow dress
sorry for not replying sooner to those who asked me questions! i have been busy moving from MI to CA (i'm in CA now but i haven't moved into my new apartment yet - i'm staying with my aunt and uncle for the time being)

anyway - i think everyone's given such wonderful advice!! happy i hope you will all share pictures of your dress!

oh as a side note - the ombre technique obviously would be difficult for this dress but it wouldn't be impossible if you had enough space for it and time.

another dying technique i did was doing the dying by hand. i did this when i made sleeves for Yuna from Final Fantasy X (for those who do not know the character - she has these kimono type sleeves that have a gradient from white to pink). i wet and hung the sleeves i made then i made the vat of dye in a bucket. i put on some plastic gloves (the really cheap disposable kind - not those plastic yellow gloves you use for dishes though i guess those could work also) and i sort of "palmed" the dye from my hand onto the fabric by dipping the palm of my hand into the dye and then "wiping" it on the fabric. (of course i did this when the dye was not super hot - it was lukewarm) it took a while to get the bottom to be a darker pink obviously but it allowed me the greatest control and the results came out well. the brush idea is a really good idea also - i was also thinking maybe using a sponge also as another tool to help get that gradient effect? like sort of "wiping" on the dye onto the cloth? i dunno just some extra thoughts on the dying part.

a side question - are you ladies dying the cloth before or after you make the dress? i had assumed that you'd make the dress first and then dye it but maybe i'm wrong? just curious

~PA

 
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Date Posted: 6/18/02 11:58pm Subject: RE: Rainbow dress
sorry for not replying sooner to those who asked me questions! i have been busy moving from MI to CA (i'm in CA now but i haven't moved into my new apartment yet - i'm staying with my aunt and uncle for the time being)

anyway - i think everyone's given such wonderful advice!! happy i hope you will all share pictures of your dress!

oh as a side note - the ombre technique obviously would be difficult for this dress but it wouldn't be impossible if you had enough space for it and time.

another dying technique i did was doing the dying by hand. i did this when i made sleeves for Yuna from Final Fantasy X (for those who do not know the character - she has these kimono type sleeves that have a gradient from white to pink). i wet and hung the sleeves i made then i made the vat of dye in a bucket. i put on some plastic gloves (the really cheap disposable kind - not those plastic yellow gloves you use for dishes though i guess those could work also) and i sort of "palmed" the dye from my hand onto the fabric by dipping the palm of my hand into the dye and then "wiping" it on the fabric. (of course i did this when the dye was not super hot - it was lukewarm) it took a while to get the bottom to be a darker pink obviously but it allowed me the greatest control and the results came out well. the brush idea is a really good idea also - i was also thinking maybe using a sponge also as another tool to help get that gradient effect? like sort of "wiping" on the dye onto the cloth? i dunno just some extra thoughts on the dying part.

a side question - are you ladies dying the cloth before or after you make the dress? i had assumed that you'd make the dress first and then dye it but maybe i'm wrong? just curious

~PA

 
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Date Posted: 6/19/02 12:00am Subject: RE: Rainbow dress
sorry for not replying sooner to those who asked me questions! i have been busy moving from MI to CA (i'm in CA now but i haven't moved into my new apartment yet - i'm staying with my aunt and uncle for the time being)

anyway - i think everyone's given such wonderful advice!! happy i hope you will all share pictures of your dress!

oh as a side note - the ombre technique obviously would be difficult for this dress but it wouldn't be impossible if you had enough space for it and time.

another dying technique i did was doing the dying by hand. i did this when i made sleeves for Yuna from Final Fantasy X (for those who do not know the character - she has these kimono type sleeves that have a gradient from white to pink). i wet and hung the sleeves i made then i made the vat of dye in a bucket. i put on some plastic gloves (the really cheap disposable kind - not those plastic yellow gloves you use for dishes though i guess those could work also) and i sort of "palmed" the dye from my hand onto the fabric by dipping the palm of my hand into the dye and then "wiping" it on the fabric. (of course i did this when the dye was not super hot - it was lukewarm) it took a while to get the bottom to be a darker pink obviously but it allowed me the greatest control and the results came out well. the brush idea is a really good idea also - i was also thinking maybe using a sponge also as another tool to help get that gradient effect? like sort of "wiping" on the dye onto the cloth? i dunno just some extra thoughts on the dying part.

a side question - are you ladies dying the cloth before or after you make the dress? i had assumed that you'd make the dress first and then dye it but maybe i'm wrong? just curious

~PA

 
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Date Posted: 6/19/02 12:02am Subject: RE: Rainbow dress
sorry for not replying sooner to those who asked me questions! i have been busy moving from MI to CA (i'm in CA now but i haven't moved into my new apartment yet - i'm staying with my aunt and uncle for the time being)

anyway - i think everyone's given such wonderful advice!! happy i hope you will all share pictures of your dress!

oh as a side note - the ombre technique obviously would be difficult for this dress but it wouldn't be impossible if you had enough space for it and time.

another dying technique i did was doing the dying by hand. i did this when i made sleeves for Yuna from Final Fantasy X (for those who do not know the character - she has these kimono type sleeves that have a gradient from white to pink). i wet and hung the sleeves i made then i made the vat of dye in a bucket. i put on some plastic gloves (the really cheap disposable kind - not those plastic yellow gloves you use for dishes though i guess those could work also) and i sort of "palmed" the dye from my hand onto the fabric by dipping the palm of my hand into the dye and then "wiping" it on the fabric. (of course i did this when the dye was not super hot - it was lukewarm) it took a while to get the bottom to be a darker pink obviously but it allowed me the greatest control and the results came out well. the brush idea is a really good idea also - i was also thinking maybe using a sponge also as another tool to help get that gradient effect? like sort of "wiping" on the dye onto the cloth? i dunno just some extra thoughts on the dying part.

a side question - are you ladies dying the cloth before or after you make the dress? i had assumed that you'd make the dress first and then dye it but maybe i'm wrong? just curious

~PA

 
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Date Posted: 6/19/02 8:04am Subject: RE: Rainbow dress
NICE GIRL-(and others) I used RIT Dye and DYE IT to dye POLY chiffon and had no problems at all. I wanted a suble pastel blend and that's exactly what I got. The RIT I used really hot water, and the DYE IT required room temperature. I did some in the washing machine, some in buckets, some in the tub-controlled it by hand--suspended it outside, pinned, draped, tied up pieces. I guess you could call it the FERD technique LOL!!! I used wide (home dec) chiffon to accomodate the "wing span". I dyed the pieces before constructing the dress (but I did cut some pieces accordingly, a gather here and tuck there) I mostly did this because I did not want to jeopordize the underdress. **Will Post Pics as soon as I finish it**
<3 FERD

 

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Date Posted: 6/19/02 9:58am Subject: RE: Rainbow dress
Ferd, I'm curious to get more details about your dyeing, if that's OK. happy

I'm guessing that you started out with white fabric, and then dyed the whole lot of it yellow (with RIT?), then added the pink and lavendar with the other dyes, in the tub/buckets/by hand. Am I somewhere close to right?

Right now the dyeing is what's hanging up my planning...oh, it's enough to make me want to live at home again, where there are garages and basements and bathtubs to spare *sigh*.

 

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Date Posted: 6/19/02 10:13am Subject: RE: Rainbow dress
i'd like to know how to even begin a dye job.. never done one.. so i'm a bit confused. someone said that they did it with their hands? that would seem like the easiest for me... what kind of fabric and/or dye should i use for this?

 
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Date Posted: 6/19/02 10:16am Subject: RE: Rainbow dress
JainaMSolo--No problem, I'll try to explain myself. I did start with white--and dyed the whole thing using Rit golden yellow in the washing machine--easy enough. Then I used a combination of rose pink and mauve RIT and very hot water and held the sections in my washing machine (yes, I dyed on top of the yellow-and it looks pink not orange) I moved it around in the dye bath--holding the parts I wanted to remain yellow out of the water. I then removed the fabric, added more mauve, then dyed more, leaving some of the pink out of the water this time. I then made a dye bath of Purple DYE IT (only because none of my stores had it in RIT :-) ) and Country Blue RIT to get a nice kinda lavender grayish bluish purple looking dye color. I made this up in a bucket and suspended my fabric above it (I kept the whole piece of fabric wet so the dye would not make a line between colors) I had the bucket in my tub, so I could constantly wet it and slowly move my fabric up and up. I then made this contraption in my front yard to spread out the fabric to dry in the wonderful Florida heat and air. As I saw it float in the breeze, and catch the sun I was VERY VERY pleased with my results. AND, it's not just a fluke--I'm making 2 of these dresses and I've been able to get the same look both times. YEAH!!! The dye Gods smile on me :-) :-) :-)
Hope That Helps you out!!
<3 FERD

 

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Date Posted: 6/19/02 10:21am Subject: RE: Rainbow dress
That helps a *lot*, thank you, Ferd!

 

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Date Posted: 6/19/02 10:42am Subject: RE: Rainbow dress - Date Edited: 6/19/02 10:43am (1 edits total) Edited By: severina
woops. accidentally reposted.

thanks

 
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Date Posted: 6/19/02 12:31pm Subject: RE: Rainbow dress
Oh, Thank you Ferd! Your dye description is invaluable, especially knowing that pink will dye over yellow without turning orange, which was a concern of mine. Thank you thank you! Do you mind telling me what kind of yardage you're using of the decorator chiffon?

 
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Date Posted: 6/19/02 12:57pm Subject: RE: Rainbow dress
Ya'll are making me blush with all the thank yous!! Sooo Glad I'm useful to someone:-) LOL!
For the yardage: I'm using the 120" chiffon and am using about 6 yards (that's about 12 yards or more of regular width chiffon) I'm putting a layer of chiffon over my underdress, too. The underdress is taking about 3 1/2 yards and the same amount of lining.
**This and that picnic dress EAT fabric***
Can't wait to see your pics.
TAKE CARE!!
FeRd

 

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Date Posted: 6/19/02 3:53pm Subject: RE: Rainbow dress
Ferdalump,

I can't wait to get back from my trips (the next 4 weeks straight) to try that dye technique!!

You mentioned that you are using 120" chiffon. I've been wondering how wide to do this... But where in the world did you get 120" fabric?!?! That's 10 feet wide!!! lol

And I'm very interested in how you're using that fabric. I'd love it if you could take some pictures of the fabric with your new dye job on it and scan them in for all to see. Also, if you've got any sketches, or can just explain, how you are planning on putting this dress together? I mean, where everything is going to be attached and all...

See, a couple days ago I thought I'd figured out the purple part in the back, but then after watching the movie again last night, I realize that it doesn't quite fit. But I do agree with you that the underdress needs a layer of chiffon. Again, I'd love it if you could detail your procedure!

thanks a million!

-skywalker325

 
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Date Posted: 6/19/02 6:58pm Subject: RE: Rainbow dress
You should be able to find the wide chiffon in a home decorator fabric store. You could get away with a less wide material, you would just need to work with it.
I would be happy to discuss my approach to this costume, and give pics. Tommorow is going to be SEWINGPALOOZA--I have a wear date that is rapidly approaching and I need to stay off the boards and on my machine. I will get the pics and description posted as soon as I can. Hope you have a nice vacation.
Talk to ya'll soon! FERD :-)

 

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