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Qui-Dawn Title : Total Posts : Private Messages (0) My Blog My Collection Shortcuts: Update Icon Edit My Board Profile Edit Board Options Switch Board Theme: WHITE GREY CLASSIC	Date Posted: 9/24/08 9:08pm Subject: RE: ~~ The Hayden Christensen Fan Club of the JCC ~~ - Date Edited: 9/24/08 9:36pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Qui-Dawn
	winces theatrically and appropriately, feeling especially and profoundly sympathetic at even just the mere thought of it, and maybe only all the more so after having just now felt the strange, unnameable temptation and the curious, undeniable, must-be-heeded-regardless urge to cue it up right straightaways and watch even a relatively fleeting bit of it....and this, too, apparently irrespective even of the fact that without fail it still seems plenty enough to induce some serious and very intensely sympathetic, albeit instinctive and involuntary cringes and highly reactive winces in general....just, aye, may it be duly said....because, indeed.... Mmmmm, well, yes, methinks that if there's one thing which is starting to seem like an incontrivertible fact of existence far as I can see it, or at the very least it's just something I'm personally finding to very much be the case and that's obviously not about to change in the slightest, at this rate.... ....that, ohhhh, aye, even though it's obviously been many a month and countless viewing and perusing since then, to be sure, so maybe by all rights and expectation otherwise one would mayhaps think it's something I should be well enough and easily accustomed to, right - if ever it does just strike me anew and for whatever reason, like pretty much now in fact, to cue up the likes of "Awake" with all this tension and entanglement and absolutely primal-preying genetic-level animal terror in general and naturally only especially so when you look at the poor, beautiful, mesmerizing, compelling, badly put-upon and hard-tested, vulnerable heroic sort who's still only too fragile just the same....and who is the one enduring and forbearing and generally putting up like that, and honest to goodness, oh, just on the whole I at this point don't know if it'll ever somehow get any easier to bear, or somehow be something one can take with any more aplomb or peace of mind, then - watching such things unfold.... ....I mean, hey, I figure as I'll quite freely and openly admit it here, not much inclined to make any secret of it in any case to be sure, but still, though....that it really does seem one of these undeniable and inevitable things where even, 'lo, all these many months after the fact and thus however many dozens upon dozens, hundreds or goodness only knows however many more times I actually have seen it, then, have just had to watch this kind of positively engrossing, intensely fraught and very intimately, exquisitely human drama and this genuine ordeal from start to finish unfold like that, slowly and deliberately, with almost a certain insidiousness about it in a way, too, come to think of it - his ordeal, his plight, and perhaps would that he'd only had the trauma, tension, fear, the very grim and potentially very fatal uncertainty of a weak heart to have to deal with, right - because naturally all things considered then, well, one can only imagine that in a weird and twisted, very real way.... ....we-ell, now, perhaps taking all that into fair and due consideration, well, one might even be led to inevitably wonder if the having of a weak heart and the subsequent dealing with it, just having to put up with the trying and burdensome likes of that, in other words - would, for all its threat to life and happiness, for all that it could, indeed, be enough to basically fell him on the spot, drop him at really any given moment and so it was like the worst and most intimate, inescapable reminder of mortality and one which simply wouldn't leave him in any case....and yet, oh, and yet, I do suppose as it's entirely possible, right - that even such a grim, dread burden as all that, even such a quite possibly very fatal physical burden besides - would actually be preferable in a warped, damning way....to the likes of other, still more acutely and terribly personal burdens and betrayals....others, then, against which maybe even something so awful as a failing heart almost pales in comparison.... ....if, to be sure...you know what I mean....ahem. wry chuckle And, well, honestly, even just in general then I will freely enough admit as it is very much something I still apparently can't handle quite so well, or to just take it with any amount of peace of mind or ease, at any rate, because truth be told it does still seem to me ju-uuuust exactly as much a trying and terrible, frightful ordeal of a thing....and one which, ye-es, frequently enough actually does have me reactively cringing back and dramatically wincing and basically everything shy of whimpering outright in extreme sympathy, methinks....and 'twill likely always be so then, I'm guessing, and how, oh, how could it ever be any other way, perhaps....especially in having to bear such witness to, well, what he is put through like that, the brutality, the wanton cruelty, the sheer torturousness of something like that done....to him, that's just as much the crux for it for me as ever it's been, and....oh, dear oh dear.... eeep And, after all, I'd say as it seems pretty readily apparent there, right - that some certain things in particular will just never get any easier to actually bear seeing done to him, inflicted upon him like that - never been able to handle that so well or with all that much aplomb, I suspect, but methinks now hat between the likes of....oh, the savage bloodletting of a scalpel, rending and tearing the beautiful, the sensitive, the vulnerable and the soft with such cold and brutal, clinical precision....and then, ohhhh, and then, the something akin to just ghastly butchery a bone saw, and even just thinking about it hurts me ol' heart in turn, I do strongly suspect, and it does still seem like one of the mos thellacious sounds on earth, most likely - and then, too, maybe when you do combine that even with the total living-torture, positively ghoulish barbarism of....of what they did to his strong, defiant, enduring ribcage besides, still makes me physically cringe even to think about it.... ....and honest to goodness, too, really only even more so quite simply because it is him being put through such a thing, being made to endure like that, and obviously I just don't know as it'll ever be a sight any more pleasant anyway....how, ohhhh, howsoever could it be one, right, between not just the physical trauma, the bodily horror, that nightmare of the flesh if you will....but then, ohhhh, then with the nightmare, the abuse and the betrayal, the monstrousness and the diabolical cruelty of - the emotional, the psychological, the spiritual and the personal ordeal he was dealt there, though, the nastiness, the wanton viciousness and the cold-blooded and for all intents and purposes truly heartless nature of it, then - what was wrought and endured like that, and....still, then, I guess I do find it that much harder to bear....and so all that, too, just because - it's him being put through that, enduring in every way....too hard, too much, to see him like that - always, especially him. Dawn. (clearly now yearning ever more just to take hold of her darling, desperate Clay and spirit him off to a nice safe place where he can't ever be hurt or used, betrayed or taken advantage of in general....aor, at least, someplace where he can only be taken advantage of in the best and much more vastly preferable sort of way....ahem.... ) -----signature----- Anakin Skywalker is shagadelic! "Oh, the things you do to get me alone." - Anakin "Stop talking." - Padme The Rambling Court Bard of the A&P Defenders Royal Court Hayden is MY Love Muffin
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Qui-Dawn Title : Total Posts : Private Messages (0) My Blog My Collection Shortcuts: Update Icon Edit My Board Profile Edit Board Options Switch Board Theme: WHITE GREY CLASSIC	Date Posted: 9/27/08 9:31pm Subject: RE: ~~ The Hayden Christensen Fan Club of the JCC ~~ - Date Edited: 9/27/08 9:49pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Qui-Dawn
	strokes chin and intently furrows brow in mimicry of thoughtful, good-natured pondering fashion Hrmmmmmm, well, certainly 'tis true enough that maybe it has been a wee while, and actually come to think of it I guess soon enough it'll have been some ten full years (eeek, wheresoever has the time gone, honestly?) since....first "Higher Ground" premiered and thus had its short but very muchly, forevermore-vividly and certainly most pleasantly memorable one season, then, such as it was - and maybe that might not seem like much to most folks, granted, the twenty-odd full episodes of the series we actually did enjoy and thus which I can only presume did have quite a formidable and meaningful little impact after all, then, for however long the show as a whole actually did end up lasting....it nonetheless counted for something and obviously touched, ohhhh, I'd have to say probably a grrrrrrreat many lives and in so doing also changed at least a few fine fortunes too....one in particular, natch. And, well, hey, maybe the best way to look at it then, the show's admittedly limited one-season run, well - it's quality in the truest sense then, right, genuinely top-notch and well-worthy quality by far and away above any such concerns about mere "quantity" and just however many episodes or even whole entire seasons of the show there might actually be to begin with....so ye-es, then, surely just because the show as a whole did have just its own twenty-plus episode season, well, at the same time it's still no less memorable for that - and maybe even more to the point, of course, the ultimate profound effect it actually did end up having and thus all the great and wonderful changes we actually did see, and in certain lives and destinies in particular at that, well....methinks then that the show itself did ultimately have a far greater and still more happy, fruitful and productive impact than even most other shows which may go on for years and years, if you know what I mean.... One season or however long to the notwithstanding, then, still it seems that in one triumphant and gladdening, thoroughly encouraging way or another "Higher Ground" as a show, from dynamic and compelling start all the way through to very muchly satisfying and wonderfully-accomplished finish all those episodes later, well - surely, then, it really did eke out quite an impact after all....I mean, honestly, who knows but what at the fundamental crux of it, the pure and tender proverbial beating heart o' the matter, well....maybe, then, it could be true and apt enough to say that - we actually do owe rather a fair bit to "Higher Ground" unto itself, and what it actually did provide us and what, and whom specifically, we actually were full well able to enjoy and treasure and find ever more irresistibly and magnetically compelling for it, then.... Thanks perhaps very muchly to the right-time right-place opportunity of "Higher Ground", well....just look, right, at all that we've had since then.... And, ohhhh, aye, to be sure then first and foremost one could only ever be thinking very much of the Hayden element there specifically, right, his vivid and memorable and darkly-brooding, tormented-troubled and in every way utterly riveting presence and performance from deeply angst-ridden and obviously badly troubled, downright traumatically-disturbed and yet profoundly and wrackingly, piteously and pitifully vulnerable start all the way through to his ultimately rather more well-adjusted and meaningfully so much healthier, in so many ways genuinely happier and resiliently tough and enduringly, bravely stronger finish, then, when all was said and done there with him, with the poor and badly-wounded, frightfully-used and deep-down stricken, volatile and angry, defensive and hostile and yet intensely needy, very profoundly, deeply and dearly fragile poor Scott after all, always someone who you just couldn't take your eyes off of even for an instant, right.... ....and, after all, I should think then that if ever he was up on the screen like that, or at least this tended to be my own experience with it as likely as not, because well - truth be told then there was just never anywhere else in all world worth looking, right, never anything or anyone else which could command attention and demand fascination, and just basically, effortlessly keep you riveted, charmed, drawn in, and of course only ever wanting more, aye, so much more besides....as, to be sure, I'm just thinking was very likely the case when it came - to Hayden's own presence and performance and his true, riveting, compelling, marvellously subtle and naturalistically layered, exquisitely fine, skillfully and dramatically, dynamically and memorably crafted fine performance, then, of a truly complex and deeply flawed, truly, deeply human soul....one who was in some ways badly battered or broken, to be sure, and really only still more fascinating for that, though - the darkness, trouble and drama, all. And, to be sure, goodness only knows that not only seems the sort of character, with a certain sense of the dark side to 'em if you will, ahem, or even just in general those who are very much flawed, seeming imperfect perhaps, or those who otherwise have at least some darkness or troubled aspect or even something downright angsty to 'em, well - by all accounts then that seems to be something he finds himself drawn to, or at least a certain aspect of the ol' human condition he doesn't mind exploring in general, right, and evidently that'll just always be the case and only all the better for that too, right....especially when, to be sure, he really is just so truly, deeply good at it after all anyway....when he does, then, definitely seem to possess a certain strong penchant and clear gift for it, too....ahem. Dawn. (who, incidentally, still valiantly and stubbornly refuses to give up hope that one day, aye, one day indeed, we surely will yet see the release of "Higher Ground" officially on DVD....true enough that it might seem at this point like we'll just never have it, the way things have apparently gone or presumably stalled out with negotiations between the studio who originally made it, the distributors, and then the folks who'd likely be putting it out there for the DVD release, and well....no doubt it can seem at least a leetle disheartening and dismaying, not to mention just totally lack-of-all-sense-making confounding besides, right - to see all these other shows with an official DVD release, yet no sign yet of the same thing for "Higher Ground" even years later....but that's no reason at all to give up hope that we will have it at some point, because we simply must....just a matter of time, but it will come....has to, really.... perpetually, valiantly optimistic look ) -----signature----- Anakin Skywalker is shagadelic! "Oh, the things you do to get me alone." - Anakin "Stop talking." - Padme The Rambling Court Bard of the A&P Defenders Royal Court Hayden is MY Love Muffin
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Ani_Lover Title : Total Posts : Private Messages (0) My Blog My Collection Shortcuts: Update Icon Edit My Board Profile Edit Board Options Switch Board Theme: WHITE GREY CLASSIC	Date Posted: 9/28/08 1:15am Subject: RE: ~~ The Hayden Christensen Fan Club of the JCC ~~
	I have yet to see and episode. I should youtube it but somehow I always forget. -----signature----- Are You Still Faint From The Run? Or Was It My Kissing Expertise? - Edward Cullen "I Have Problems With My Tongue, When I Concentrate Really Hard, It Sticks Out." - Hayden Anakin, Can I Touch Your Lightsaber?
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Qui-Dawn Title : Total Posts : Private Messages (0) My Blog My Collection Shortcuts: Update Icon Edit My Board Profile Edit Board Options Switch Board Theme: WHITE GREY CLASSIC	Date Posted: 9/28/08 2:29am Subject: RE: ~~ The Hayden Christensen Fan Club of the JCC ~~
	Ani_Lover posted: I have yet to see and episode. I should youtube it but somehow I always forget. looks appropriately shocked and appalled all at once, momentarily loses her balance and falls clear out of her chair in surprise, bruising her tailbone quite handily in the process ....ow, darn it! ....ahem. There, now, what I suppose I actually meant to say was - whoa, whoa, just hold on a sec here, my love - what's this about you not having yet seen a full episode the whole way through, I take it, like anything apart even from just the merest snippets or tantalizing little glimpses here and there....oh, eeek, how is that even possible, I suppose one might wonder - though of coyrse, given how tricksy and beyond vexatiously challenging it can be to actually come across the series being aired most anywhere these days, well, believe you me I totally and sincerely sympathize on that score, m'dear, for sure and certain....heck, it seems now like for whatever bizarre, unfathomable and very dismaying reason, the station which had been airing the show here, cycling through it repeatedly.... ....albeit, to be sure, at the rather criminally unfair and just plain inhumanly way-early hour of six a.m., mind you, which basically meant that more often than not and much to my teeth-gnashing futile frustration I did end up missing at least most if not all, gah, of the show most mornings....just the way it went with the schedule, I suppose, though I do remember waking up at least a few times and seemingly out of nowhere, with apparently nothing which should've jolted me awake otherwise far as I could tell, and yet when I'd make a mad, impulsively eager and ever-hopeful dive for the remote and then switch on by the show even if they were well into it by then, well....curiouser and curiouser, I suppose, that it seemed to happen most often when there was one Haydenly scene or another at the time, as though on some strange sixth-sense level I was perchance aware of that, responding to the persuasive call and the undeniable allure, the siren song if you will, of the Haydenliness.... ....I mean, honestly looking at how often I just seemed to bolt wide awake like that and with no other reason for it, and it seemed completely random otherwise, and yet when I'd go browsing on by the show as likely as not I would find I'd woken up ju-uuuuuust exactly in time to catch some scrumptious seething Scott in at least some form or fashion, at any rate....seems like that happened way too often to ever be considered mere coincidence, not to be sure that I'd eve rbelieve in such a thing anyway, but....mmmmmm, talk of the best and brightest way imaginable to wake up for the day, right....I certainly didn't mind it then, as long as it lasted I suppose, because alack-and-alas now and for whatever reason I still can't fathom - but I'm none too happy about it either, natch, and just because it means that I'm clearly being deprived of my young and brash and adorably troubled, darkly and forlornly brooding, smolderingly angry and yet profoundly and pitifully vulnerable fresh young Haydenly fix, then.... ....for really, now, if all this time they've been consistently airing it and so you feel like you can trust in that, rest well enough easy and content in it and thus actually come to count on it as a sure thing, then....ohhhh, now, truth be told it just seems in every way as unfair and disappointing now as ever it has, when one minute it's reliably there on the schedule and then suddenly, unceremoniously, rudely they just yank it altogether, no forewarning or anything of the sort - one moment it's there and then it's not, and so we're being deprived of the Haydenliness, and that we shouldn't ever have to put up with anyway....mmmmmm, aye, too terribly cruel, then, if you ask me. wryly knowing chuckle Ohhhh, but still then, ye-es, so certainly m'dear I absolutely do understand the dilemma of not being able to find the show airing anywheres - just a matter of lucking into it at the right place, the right time I suppose. Oh, ohhhh, but still, though - unless I greatly miss my guess here, I could swear that I have come across most if not all of the "Higher Ground" episodes somewheres or other on YouTube, or at least they're all the most pertinent clips we'd probably care about most, natch, and it really is a rich plethora if I'm remembering right....is it by way of Jen's YouTube channel, perhaps, forgive me that I can't quite recollect the name of it here but I know that's where I've seen clips from at least a few episodes I never had before, and....oh, eeep....oh, poor darling Scott, that badly used and deeply distraught, sorely stricken and overwrought, volatile and vulnerable dear soul....oh, the poor, poor thing.... sniff Dawn. -----signature----- Anakin Skywalker is shagadelic! "Oh, the things you do to get me alone." - Anakin "Stop talking." - Padme The Rambling Court Bard of the A&P Defenders Royal Court Hayden is MY Love Muffin
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Ani_Lover Title : Total Posts : Private Messages (0) My Blog My Collection Shortcuts: Update Icon Edit My Board Profile Edit Board Options Switch Board Theme: WHITE GREY CLASSIC	Date Posted: 9/28/08 3:25pm Subject: RE: ~~ The Hayden Christensen Fan Club of the JCC ~~
	Qui-Dawn posted: responding to the persuasive call and the undeniable allure, the siren song if you will, of the Haydenliness.... That gave me such a smile. Qui-Dawn posted: .is it by way of Jen's YouTube channel, perhaps, forgive me that I can't quite recollect the name of it here but I know that's where I've seen clips from at least I'll have to search for her channel. I know she's had it suspended a few times which makes things a wee bit harder. -----signature----- Are You Still Faint From The Run? Or Was It My Kissing Expertise? - Edward Cullen "I Have Problems With My Tongue, When I Concentrate Really Hard, It Sticks Out." - Hayden Anakin, Can I Touch Your Lightsaber?
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Qui-Dawn Title : Total Posts : Private Messages (0) My Blog My Collection Shortcuts: Update Icon Edit My Board Profile Edit Board Options Switch Board Theme: WHITE GREY CLASSIC	Date Posted: 9/28/08 10:10pm Subject: RE: ~~ The Hayden Christensen Fan Club of the JCC ~~ - Date Edited: 9/28/08 10:28pm (1 edits total) Edited By: Qui-Dawn
	Ani_Lover posted: Qui-Dawn posted: responding to the persuasive call and the undeniable allure, the siren song if you will, of the Haydenliness.... That gave me such a smile. Qui-Dawn posted: .is it by way of Jen's YouTube channel, perhaps, forgive me that I can't quite recollect the name of it here but I know that's where I've seen clips from at least I'll have to search for her channel. I know she's had it suspended a few times which makes things a wee bit harder. scratches head and furrows brow in mild puzzlement Hrmmmmmm, now, I'll admit as that seems like it could be a bit dismaying and I guess I would actually find myself at something of a loss to explain it, too, just what might ever conceivably lead to her YouTube channel, and with its Denliness in at least some form or fashion and maybe especially so if she is, indeed, really the one and only place to reliably find and thus gladly, thankfully partake of the "Higher Ground" goodness in general and of course the smoldering sullen, dark-brooding and world-troubled, heavy-burdened Scott in particular, to be sure, for that's very much the priority and the main, driving incentive, the clear compelling motivation here being just the Hayden Factor pure and simple, there really is no way around that so we might as well just come right out with it anyway, have it known and make really no apologies or excuses for it either.... 'Tis very muchly Hayden himself, then, and thus his own arcing and journey of troubled and brooding, intensely complicated and fascinatingly very human character and really his general presence at all, then, which I'd imagine offers all the reason and great, convincing incentive in the world to watch, and to check it out - if even somehow for no other reason, then, even just for him, and of course 'twill always be quite well and satisfyingly worth it then, I should think, it'll always make for all the reason and incentive one ever could need or hope for, then....at least so long as he's involved in it and very much there for the savouring, the adoring and the very thorough appreciating, then, at least so long as he has ome part to play in it 'twill always be worthwhile, and then some.... And so I'd imagine, too, that very much the same thing would likely hold well enough true when it comes to something like "Higher Ground", then - obviously very much worth it even in general, for sure.... ....but naturally, too, and even apart from just however much the show itself as a whole seems plenty commendable and worthwhile and enjoyable enough, definitely worth a go all on its own merits I've found, and of course it does only make me rue and regret it at least somewhat that I neve rdid seem to know about the show until a wee while afterwards, is the thing, I never stumbled across it until later one night when I just so fortuitously chanced across it, didn't necessarily realize at first what I was actually watching - until, of course, I immediately recognized Hayden right there on the spot, eagerly and delightedly marked him on sight - and also squeed aloud and excited high-pitched at that, to be sure, and I do still remember some mad and frenzied-impulsive lunging for the VCR remote and some falling off the bed in sheerest shock and fangirling ecstasies all the while....aaaahhhhhh, yes, you know how it all goes, I'm sure. giggles reminiscently, audaciously But oh, ohhhh, also - so naturally then, I'm thinking, only a very fine and fitting thing to be able to check out theshow in general and somehow even apart from the penultimate Hayden Factor, not to be sure that one probably ever could think of it that way, right, I just don't know as one could ever necessarily take him out of it, and thus ever somehow have "Higher Ground" without him, then, there just seems no way....he's that intrinsic, essential part of it, I feel, the lashing-out volatile anger and the seething, simmering temper, the plushly and finely silk-soft-pleated lips-pouting, smooth and youthful brow-brooding smoldering sullen attitude and the very deeply wounded and badly, fearfully, pitifully forlorn vulnerability of him behind even all the defensive posturing and the raised hackles, the sharp and defiant tongue and the spark-flaring vivid and dramatic eyes, and mmmmm, ohhhh, yes then....methinks he really is just downright crucial to things there, right, one way or another.... ....as though, to be sure, maybe it is jus tpretty well impossible and unfathomable to ever somehow imagine the likes of "Higher Ground" without him, then....our smoldering spitfire Scott, then, after a fashion....Imean, honestly, IU certainly couldn't ever imagine it without him, he's that singularly essential part of it far as I'm concerned and a definite motivation and prime incentive besides....very much, then, could I suppose it be said I watch for him first and foremost, when you get right down to it maybe just for the sake of the Denliness above all else....not necessarily the only reason to be sure, but hey - every little bit helps, right, and after all....I mean, honestly, if one will have priorities in this world.... tee hee And ohh, well, aye, so naturally then I'd suppose that - well, having access to something like Jen's YouTube channel in this case, right, with at lesat a fair smattering of HG goodness and really all one could ever need or hope for of Scott, well.... ....naturally only so much the better there for sure, that she would have up and readily enough available everything we could ever have want of or hope for, insofar as our scrumptious Scott surely is concerned and really right from troubled and tormented beginning all the way through to the rather more healthy and something like happy, content-and-comfortable-within-his-own-skin end he enjoyed after all, from te very dark-place start of his tangled and conflicted journey....all the way through to his better place, his safer and more content and comfortable, healed (enough) place, in the end....mmmmmm, yes, definitely pretty well essential to be able to have access to that, I'm thinking, it does seem only fair and surely only all the more so since, to be sure and as we're only too well if vexingly aweare of, right - well, plainly put, since we are still waiting around here for "Higher Ground" in all its Haydenliness to actually come out on DVD, finally and have done with it.... Since we're still being kept waiting for that official DVD release, then, whenever the heck we could expect it to be at this point and goodness only knows they're more than taking their sweet time with it too - darn good thing, perhaps, that we do tend to be the superhumanly patient type, because can you imagine how we'd be feeling about it and coping with it otherwise? snerk - and so, after all, there's little doubt that if and when we do finally and at longest last have that HG DVD release, oh, we'll clearly be rapturously allllll over that one anyway, but....since we don't have that as of yet, I feel, like if we're still being left without, like that - then surely we've got to find at least some way to cope, right....surely, then, we've got to make do somehow, with whatever we can - be it by way of Jen's YouTube site in this case or whatever else, then - we rely on it because we've no other choice, because if we did have it....we'd take it, absolutely! Aaahhhh, yes, if only.... Dawn. (so see, now, clearly not our fault nor Jen's nor anyone else's that we're being forced to resort to YouTube'ing or whatever else just for the sake of getting our Denly HG fix, then....wouldn't have to come to that if they'd just go ahead and give it to us on DVd, that would solve all the problems and simple things up so much, too, right then and there....can't believe this apparently hasn't occurred to 'em yet, for whatever reason....mmmmmm, ohhhh, aye, whatever are they thinking, or clearly not as the case may be, apparently.... ) -----signature----- Anakin Skywalker is shagadelic! "Oh, the things you do to get me alone." - Anakin "Stop talking." - Padme The Rambling Court Bard of the A&P Defenders Royal Court Hayden is MY Love Muffin
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Qui-Dawn Title : Total Posts : Private Messages (0) My Blog My Collection Shortcuts: Update Icon Edit My Board Profile Edit Board Options Switch Board Theme: WHITE GREY CLASSIC	Date Posted: 10/1/08 9:54pm Subject: RE: ~~ The Hayden Christensen Fan Club of the JCC ~~ - Date Edited: 10/1/08 10:19pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Qui-Dawn
	....okay, well, even at this understandably early stage and hence even given the fact that they're only just into pre-production on it if pretty much anything, to be sure, and so 'tis undoubtedly a safe enough presumption that it may end up being a wee ways off yet - though also not too terribly or monstrously long or unfathomably distant either, I should think, and even considering the fact that when all's said and done we'll clearly be waiting well into next year entirely for it....a bit of an agony in at least one respect I suppose, because after all, who in this world ever likes having to just sit around and bide their time and do little else but wait, right....and methinks too that of anyone, well, let's just say that we of the Haydenly bent in particular may be possessed of rather less patience anyway....ohhhh, we do try however bravely and valiantly, 'tis probably safe enough to say and from months, even years of experience, at that.... ....but all the same, well, I can still imagine that patience would be a rather harder thing to keep in mind and virtue to have to adhere to, right - and naturally especially so when it comes to that which we most desire and yearn for, deeply adore and generally lust after with a gleeful, wanton abandon and pure carnal intention besides....and that of course being, in turn....the Haydenly things in life in particular, and really, now - who, I ask you, whosoever indeed could possibly exercise the leas t bit o' patience where that, where he, is thusly concerned? I can only reckon it as we probably can't, at least not quite so much....ahem. And so certainly, too, I guess I'd wonder if maybe much the same holds true, if that sentiment's still sound and apt enough when it comes even to something like - "Beast of Bataan", right, and hence the fact that by all accounts and natural presuming it clearly is rather a ways off yet....totally understandable, to be sure.... ....ohhhh, but still, though, just the same I should think that maybe that doesn't necessarily preclude us from collectively and en-masse feeling like....it's the Haydenliness in some form or fashion, and by all accounts making for something very especially compelling and uniquely fascinating in this case especially, too, given as how it centres on an event and people which maybe aren't necessarily thought of much these days, by and large....as though it's just not something we tend to learn or read about, or otherwise seem to focus on all that much, or even have any real awareness of it in general - all the more apt, fair reason, perhaps, why it is just that awesomely intriguing and undeniably compelling story, and a true one at that....one which is maybe worth the telling and the realizing even more so, too, because it doesn't seem to have ever been done before. And, of course, that Hayden himself is so directly and personally, intrinsically involved in "Bataan" like this.... ....because he does, then, by all accounts seem to have such an intensely and carefully involved stake in it like that....because this is a project he's part of in whatever curious and compelling capacity, well, far as I'm concerned anyway that does only make it something I'm still more provoked and mightily interested enough to see....undoubtedly would be anyway, I suppose, because the crux of the idea even as we know it so far just seems endlessly compelling and alluring, a story of a place, of events, of a people and a time which really seem to deserve the telling, that's what.... Aaaaahhhhhh, but still, though, at the same time I don't know as one could ever exactly deny the fact or pretend otherwise, that maybe the proverbial great lion's share of the appeal and the interest of it does come from the singular fact of Hayden's involvement....which will automatically make it something of real, true enjoyable worth, too, right there. Mmmmmmm, yes, I surely do feel, anyway.... chortles And, well, heck, isn't that too something like the whole point of the undeniable appeal and allure, the already-great and eager-keen interest in something like "Bataan" and naturally maybe most of all because he is in it anyway, period and end of story right there I suppose.... And, ohhhh, aye, certainly then it is something to greatly and delightedly look forward to, right, even just the thought of actually seeing him up there yet again on the big, glorious movie screen - mmmmmm, yes, just as much total heavenly bliss and ecstasy now as fair ever it's been, I'd imagine - what with the naturally-enough presumed fact even right about now, anyway, that odds are good we'll be seeing at least some of him in full-fledged military or dress uniform, at any rate, and of course we already well know just what a delicious and positively devourable thing he truly is - in even just a fake military--ish style uniform then, in even just a dapper and commanding medal-adorned costume....mmmmmm, quite. But oh, oh, also, here's the thing of it there, his whole and obvious involvement with a project like "Bataan" then, the fact that naturally he will by necessity be right front-row-centre for this one, very much up there in front o' the camera and clearly up on the bold and beautiful big screen, that's only the expected thing anyway....ohhhh, but at the same time, though - unless mine eyes do greatly deceive me here, well, I do reckon as I've heard at least a leetle something something else - about Hayden actually producing this one too, so clearly he's got some involvement there in at least some respect....and maybve even fairly directly hands-on with it too in that way, as a producer, because I'm thinking it is absolutely possible to be, right....to be very intensely involved in every stage of the production and to keep close tabs on the creative process, how it's all unfolding and the like, but maybe with none of the day-to-day stress and taxing time of being a director, natch.... And so, well, the fact that he presumably is taking on the role of producer for "Bataan" in at least some way, well, I should think as most definitely that could still afford him real creative control, some very strong and decisive, meaningful input on the whole process, at any rate....just from a different behind-the-camera angle as well, in addition to the one he gets from doing his thang in front of it too....so this wy, then, with "Bataan" and him evidently doing a double-duty-of-sorts on it, well - he would seem to have it really from all sides there, right, to be flexing his powerful creative muscle and helping craft compelling characters, and be part of the telling of a most fascinating story, from in front of and behind the camera both....something very worthwhile and no doubt hugely satisfying for him then, I'd expect. Heck, he's tried his hand at it at least once before, right, when Forest Park, the company he co-founded with Tove, helped spearhead "Shattered Glass" a wee while back.... And there too, in other words, he was very much the serious force to be impressively reckoned with both in front of and behind the camera....and maybe enough too so that once he'd had at least one shot of it, well, surely he couldn't wait for just the right and befitting project to come along so's he could do it again....being part of it on multiple meaningful levels, then. Because, after all, even as much as he obviously love sacting unto itself and so it is very much his greatest forte, well....at the same time though might wonder if maybe he actually does find himself just as much at home and liking it, equally as able to flex his creative muscle and exercise his artistic self, in other words....from behind the camera as anything else. Be it as a producer, to be sure....or even if something else like writing or directing took his fancy, too, as I'm starting to suspect it surely will at some point....he just seems the type, I've that definite sense of him, I suppose.... ....that he very well could, then, actually be someone for whom the behind-the-camera exploits and artistic endeavours are just as meaningful and interesting, fascinating and involving, as ever anything in front of the camera when it comes to acting, conveying and realizing a character, surely ever could be. Maybe, then, he would at some point find himself taken enough with one idea or another so that....he'd find himself writing it, perhaps, or else deciding to go so far as to slip into the director's chair for it, 'tis entirely possible and I'm naturally loving like all heck the mental image that one brings, truth be told.... It just seems to me more and more, then, that maybe ultimately we will see Hayden delving into matters more behind the camera, and probably plenty more producing and even directing outright, too, if ever the "just so" right idea, compelling characters and story surely do come along for 'im.... I mean, honestly, just look at all the other great, wonderfully well-worthy actors who've gone on to be something formidable when it comes to directing - Clint Eastwood, Robert Redford, even most recently someone like George Clooney comes to mind, right....all excellent and phenomenal, well-worthy and perfectly capable actors who've decided to try their hand at this proverbial directing and writing thang....and who have thus found it very much to their liking, and a natural enough fit for 'em in turn. And, honestly, I guess I just see no reason at all why Hayden can't be very much the same....and, indeed, surely only every reason in the world why he actually could be, soon enough. He's already trying his hand at producing, after all....goodness only knows, perhaps, what could be next for him from there.... Dawn. -----signature----- Anakin Skywalker is shagadelic! "Oh, the things you do to get me alone." - Anakin "Stop talking." - Padme The Rambling Court Bard of the A&P Defenders Royal Court Hayden is MY Love Muffin
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Qui-Dawn Title : Total Posts : Private Messages (0) My Blog My Collection Shortcuts: Update Icon Edit My Board Profile Edit Board Options Switch Board Theme: WHITE GREY CLASSIC	Date Posted: 10/6/08 9:18pm Subject: RE: ~~ The Hayden Christensen Fan Club of the JCC ~~
	sniff sniff ackerchoo! Ohhhhhhhh, man, it's starting to seem quite the sure and confirmed thing right about now and I've been continually and vividly reminded of it pretty much all day so far, all the more compelling and convincing reason to be sure, I don't doubt, why it's basically sending me desperately diving with all due lusty haste and fervent need for the DVD player right straightaways, as though I'm guessing that nothing less than this would probably satisfy enough or seem to do the trick under the circumstances, but mmmmmm, ohhhh, yes....how I just can't help vividly realizing, and now especially, that if ever there seemed a time when I'd find myself so desperately seeking out and cleaving to, and in general just turning to every last bit of Haydenly comfort or pleasure to most definitely be taken in one form or another, well, surely this would simply have to be it....woke up this morning feeling a wee bit sniffly and sneezy and rather more congested than I'd have otherwise liked.... ....and, to be sure, ever sinc then it seems like it's only gotten to the point where I'm fairly staggering around practically sneezing my head off, sniffling up a storm, and basically just feeling waaaay the heck too much under the weather for my liking, I must say....and I can't even imagine how this must've happened either, especially since I do try to pride myself on never falling prey like this - I mean, honestly, just what good is a hale and hearty, nic and healthy immune system to me then, right? Aaaaahhhh, I ask you. And even though it admittedly might be just some nasty, tricksy little blighter of the common cold - agh, curse you! vehemently shaking fist, wielding lightsaber to enthusiastically strike down the nearest germ, right quick - still, though, just the same it feels like it is crimping my style a wee bit, right, definitely putting a kink in my enjoyment at any rate....especially as I keep sneezing like mad here and feeling like I've been run over by a truck. Repeatedly. Agh! sniff sniffle stifled achoo So certainly then, ye-es, maybe I would just have to say that - well, between sneezing up a storm and feeling all woozy and even a trifle lightheaded and distinctly blah in general like that, even in basically being felled and pretty much down for the count by these nasty little blighters, and it really is no fun and not at all how I'd been looking to start my week either....agh, common cold, how I curse you!....ohhhh, but still, though, all the same I 8do* find myself wondering now if maybe, you know, ju-uuuust maybe - there could very well be a bit of an up-side to enjoy well enough, even in feeling all under the weather and blah like that, as though there is actually a bit of an advantage to be had in it after all....that being, of course, the Hayden factor specifically, I should think - and, hence, the fact that maybe even for however much one might be feeling under the weather or a wee bit peakish or sick-like.... ....as though, indeed, no matter even the mere common cold or flu or fair whatever else, then, still maybe it's the Haydenliness in at least some form which can provide some real relief and lasting comfort there, I would wager it, and actually I do still think as he really is the best by far and most effective panacea for all ills, then, if you know what I mean - as though, indeed, between vivid eyes and dramatic, plush and positively sinful, deliciously stimulating velvety pillow lips and adorable delectable beauty marks, all, between that silken fan of his most gorgeeous and almost impossible eyelashes, and his brushstroke-beautiful piano-playing hands of such vivid expression and dynamic, almost unconsciously dramatic movement and almost unimaginable length and slenderness and fine, smooth sculpting, all, and ohhhh....really, now, taking all that into due and fair account, right, I should think as it seems like enough of a sure thing and a bounden certainty that in one way or another, right.... ....like with that wonderfully and deeply-dimpling smile or that slightest thoughtful crease of his brow and the way in which the bridge of his nose so subtly and adorably wrinkles right up like that when he seems so very deep in thought or intense musing, or ther's obviously something intriguing and provoking enough there on his mind like that too, and.... deep, delighted and distinctly dreamy sigh ....ohhhh, honestly, between one thing and another, then, it does just seem to me and maybe especially so now, right, that he really is like the best and greatest panacea to help tend to all one's ills, right (and let's just say too that he certainly is the only one I'd ever have tending to mine, and honestly maybe it ould almost be worth feeling under the weather or getting all sickly-like just for the simple sake of having his tender, and personal, and appropriately direct ministrations, then....mmmmmm, yes, absolutely nothing better or more desirable then, I should think.... ) .... ....as though, indeed, there really could be no better cure for all that ails you, and never a more effective one besides, than of course Hayden in particular....somehow, I would expect....and hrmmmm, yes, I suppose this may be as good and apropos a time as any to be testing out that particular theory....I mean, honestly, chicken noodle soup, cough medicine, orange juice and the like or whatever else, then, probably all well and good in its place....but I figure so long as I'm being prescribed my daily dose of Denliness, in one way or another....then 'twill all be quite alright, and never anything to worry about then....so long as one has that doctor-prescribed dose of Denliness, then, as though one could ever have need of anything else.... tee hee Dawn. (thinking to start things off first with her troubador of a Musician with his smoldering, stubborn attitude, then moving right along to the courage and endurance and the downright Heroic bravery of one very handsome, dashing young vulnerable soul of a billionaire, then from there taking a fine and invigorating, impossibly exciting little spin with a brash young rogue of a showoff teleporter, natch....and then, mmmmmm, then 'twill undoubtedly be right on to an adorable upstart young rapscallion, and sharp-tongued, quick-witted Lothario with a talent for mischief, and a penchant for seduction, with the face and form of an angel yet with such mischief and deviltry in his heart and spirit, too, all....mmmmmm, quite, and methinks that will be ju-uuuust the thing here....just what the doctor did order, then, I'm sure of it.... ) -----signature----- Anakin Skywalker is shagadelic! "Oh, the things you do to get me alone." - Anakin "Stop talking." - Padme The Rambling Court Bard of the A&P Defenders Royal Court Hayden is MY Love Muffin
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Qui-Dawn Title : Total Posts : Private Messages (0) My Blog My Collection Shortcuts: Update Icon Edit My Board Profile Edit Board Options Switch Board Theme: WHITE GREY CLASSIC	Date Posted: 10/13/08 1:33pm Subject: RE: ~~ The Hayden Christensen Fan Club of the JCC ~~ - Date Edited: 10/13/08 1:57pm (2 edits total) Edited By: Qui-Dawn
	....and I guess one might wonder, too, at least taking into account the fact that Hayden actually is not just very much right front-row-and-gloriously-centre there in his onscreen role for "Beast of bataan", natch, and of course far as I'm concerned he'll just always be the main and predominant star of the pic and that's even whether or not his name may necessarily be at the top o' the marquee, as it were, because by my own personal reckoning anyway he'll just always be the star of the show, beautiful, compelling, magnetic, charismatic, alluring in such fine fashion that of course for each and every moment he holds the screen and captures all attention then naturally there's just nowhere else in all the world worth looking, anyway, likely never anywhere else on-screen one probably would care to look or pay much attention to, then....at least so long as he is right there on screen, dramatic and big and beautiful and impossibly captivating in general, really.... ....so certainly then, ye-es, maybe I would tend to expect it that at least so long as Hayden is right up there on-screen and capturing all attention and compelling all interest with his nuance and charm and simply marvellous, obviously quite easy and innate magnetism and command of performance as a whole, well....aaaaahhhhhh, really now, as though there could ever be most anything or anyone else worth looking at or paying much attention to, perhaps - as though it could really be of much consequence, you know, comparatively....at least so long as Hayden is up there, holding and commanding and captivating on the big screen to really whatever extent large or small, for that matter, and even if it's a leading-role performance or maybe it isn't, well, all the same then do I tend to find that so long as he is up there....never anyone or anyplace else worth looking, then....at least so long as he is around. That's all there is to it, I figure, really. Ohhhh, but still, though, maybe it's in thinking of such things and thus the fact that, well, by all accounts 'twould seem and so maybe we can only naturally enough tacitly, hopefully presume that we will, of course, be seeing verrrrrry thankfully and wonderfully much of him, again right front-row-centre and pretty much right first and foremost, too, there on the full big screen and, hence, very much in front of the camer and honing his creative craft, perfecting his art and all that, in even something like "Bataan" - sems like we won't be suffering from any sad lack of him there on screen, at least given what looks like he nature and the demands of his role there, and of course that's only all the better and probably something like the sweetest and most sublime, dearly welcome proverbial music to our ears too, I would expect....trusting well enough in the fact that we likely will be seeing much of him there, it's be hard not to, considering....and never would we have it otherwise. tee hee Ohhhh, but all the same clearly for even however much we are naturally going to see of him there in front of the camera and so assuming his role, portraying the character and so being able to express and hone and call on that creative side in turn, well - obviously all very well and most good there anyway, so naturally that in itself would be plenty enough to satisfy and thus verrrry gratifyingly much to our liking anyway, natch....but even so, though, maybe it is also the fact that he's doing such double-duty on this one in particular, and probably won't be the last time by any means either, as a producer and actor both....and, I don't know, it just seems like the more I ponder that one and hence the fact that he's trying his hand at the especial and demanding, but probably hugely rewarding challenge it affords him, well....the better I'd have to say I really am liking it, and it just seems a rare and perfect opportunity for him - professionally, of course creatively....all. And certainly, too, in turn maybe it's this - the fact that he is trying his hand at these pursuits just as much behind thcamera, but still no less important or creative for that - no less artistic a thing, then, whether or not it's behind the camera or in front of it still it seems perfectly well worthwhile and no doubt quite the refreshing and satisfying challenge, too....and maybe enough so that when all's said and done, hey, I suppose it could be that whethe r'tis in producing or even in something like writing or just jumping right headlong into a true challenge and test like directing, well....all the same, though, I would jus twonder if 'tis entirely possible....that he will end up not just naturally liking the behind-the-camera endeavours like that, and thus finding them quite worthwhile and enjoyable enough, but what's more....myabe he'll get to the point of actually preferring them. Maybe, then, I'm guessing he could be someone for whom the behind-the-camera creative pursuits are not just as enjoyable, challenging and stimulating, but they may even prove to be something he finds himself liking even more, or at a certain point just finds himself so irresistibly drawn to it, intrigued by it, to the point where....it's what he wants to do and yearns to try his hand at the most, what just comes to appeal to him far more in its way....or what could no doubt prove enough of a challenge and a test in its own right so that he simply can't ever pass up on it, whethe rit be in the realm of producing and the like....or even as a very presonally-involved director, I'm thinking the appeal of it really could be there for him. Besides, he's someone for whom it seems the creativity of the story and the character, the art of acting and of filmmaking, natch, which matters most....and obviously far and away more than all the other non-creative fuss and fol-de-rol associated with it, ahem. And, actually, I'm guessing it can sometimes seem like....actors themselves, with their natural on-camera expertise, comfort and awareness, really can end up making some of the best directors out there....like they just have an eye for it, a sense of how the set works and thus that innateunderstanding of how it feels to be directed by others....but to also be able to step behind the camera and do it themselves, in turn - and so surely then they'd know better than most anyone else just what it is like, working and creating and being part of the process....from both sides. It likely gives them an even more intimate perspective which non-actor directors might lack....or, at the very least, I'm thinking it might be that much easier for actor-directors to deal with, and to thus get the best performances, tell the proper story - and to do so with that knowledge of what it's like for everyone involved, so I don't know....maybe actor-directors like that really can be that much easier to work with. Heck, it seems like we've heard as much before, like when it comes to other actors who were once naturally known first and foremost for that, but since then they've obviously branched out a fair bit, expanded their creative horizons even further....apparemtly they can be even better and much more comfy to work with, right - probably not nearly so demanding as some non-actor directors likely could be, anyway....and, again, right there it would surely just be because....they know what it's like, from both sides now....they have that "certain point of view" which I'm guessing serves them in really good stead - and maybe even makes of them bette rand still more attuned directors for it, right....ones who really do understand all the ins and outs of performing....and how to best achieve it. Maybe, then, they really can make for the most uniquely-suited and innately-talented directors, then, with their own experience and awareness of the set, the process....all the more reason for him to do it, natch. And, to be sure, I suppose it's always a distinct possibility that if he did give this whole directing thang and whatnot a try, if that is indeed where his path sems to lead him, to the point where even he ends up preferring it and becomes one of those actors who ultimately directs 'n' such more than anything else in front of the camera....if, then, that's where his proverbial druthers may lie, his own path of creativity and artistry and expressing-of-himself, well....just so long as it's what makes him happy, then, if it's very much to his own enjoyment and satisfaction....then it would only make me happy for him in turn, and that's all I'd ever want for him, really. Ohhhh, yes, of course we want more than anything to see him actually in front of the camera, natch, acting and embodying, charming and compelling away....but at the same time, though, if it comes to it so that he's one who likes directing et al maybe even more....then so be it, perhaps. Just so long as he's happy, I feel.... Dawn. -----signature----- Anakin Skywalker is shagadelic! "Oh, the things you do to get me alone." - Anakin "Stop talking." - Padme The Rambling Court Bard of the A&P Defenders Royal Court Hayden is MY Love Muffin
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Force_Chick Title : Total Posts : Private Messages (0) My Blog My Collection Shortcuts: Update Icon Edit My Board Profile Edit Board Options Switch Board Theme: WHITE GREY CLASSIC	Date Posted: 10/13/08 7:01pm Subject: RE: ~~ The Hayden Christensen Fan Club of the JCC ~~
	Imagine my surprise while scrolling through the JCC only to discover a thread about one of the few actors in Hollywoood that I actually drool about. The other being some actor named Orlando. Count me in as a Hayden fan. I have his photo, in various forms, as my avatar in every group I belong to. I've seen him in LAAH and Jumper but I have to say that I really liked him a Anakin best. I look forward to continued participation in this thread -----signature----- When Facism comes to the United States, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. - Sinclair Lewis Duct Tape is like the Force. It has a Light Side and a Dark Side And it holds everything together.
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starwarsrules123 Title : Total Posts : Private Messages (0) My Blog My Collection Shortcuts: Update Icon Edit My Board Profile Edit Board Options Switch Board Theme: WHITE GREY CLASSIC	Date Posted: 10/13/08 8:15pm Subject: RE: ~~ The Hayden Christensen Fan Club of the JCC ~~ - Date Edited: 10/13/08 8:32pm (1 edits total) Edited By: starwarsrules123
	IS YOU SRS? Y'all are still here, eh? O= (btw im having an orgasm...) EDIT: is he REALLY canadian? if so does he say eh? o_o (I WANNA HEARS IT!) -----signature----- Ruki is MY husband so back off! =] The GazettE is the greatest band EVER
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ROTSFan Title : Total Posts : Private Messages (0) My Blog My Collection Shortcuts: Update Icon Edit My Board Profile Edit Board Options Switch Board Theme: WHITE GREY CLASSIC	Date Posted: 10/13/08 10:49pm Subject: RE: ~~ The Hayden Christensen Fan Club of the JCC ~~
	Welcome, Force_Chick! Good to have you here, and looking forward to conversing with you. If you have any new news, pictures, or anything else, feel free to post. -----signature----- Fics in profile; ask me to unlock ~I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing, and it was everything I hoped it would be." - Office Space
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Ani_Lover Title : Total Posts : Private Messages (0) My Blog My Collection Shortcuts: Update Icon Edit My Board Profile Edit Board Options Switch Board Theme: WHITE GREY CLASSIC	Date Posted: 10/14/08 9:34am Subject: RE: ~~ The Hayden Christensen Fan Club of the JCC ~~
	Welcome Force_Chick! Besides Den I have a thing for Orlando as well. -----signature----- Are You Still Faint From The Run? Or Was It My Kissing Expertise? - Edward Cullen "I Have Problems With My Tongue, When I Concentrate Really Hard, It Sticks Out." - Hayden Anakin, Can I Touch Your Lightsaber?
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starwarsrules123 Title : Total Posts : Private Messages (0) My Blog My Collection Shortcuts: Update Icon Edit My Board Profile Edit Board Options Switch Board Theme: WHITE GREY CLASSIC	Date Posted: 10/15/08 8:35pm Subject: RE: ~~ The Hayden Christensen Fan Club of the JCC ~~
	Just a reminder for yall! On cartoonetwork it has goosebumps: night of the living dummy 3 AND IT HAS HAYDEN. o_o -----signature----- Ruki is MY husband so back off! =] The GazettE is the greatest band EVER
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farrellg Title : Total Posts : Private Messages (0) My Blog My Collection Shortcuts: Update Icon Edit My Board Profile Edit Board Options Switch Board Theme: WHITE GREY CLASSIC	Date Posted: 10/16/08 9:07pm Subject: RE: ~~ The Hayden Christensen Fan Club of the JCC ~~
	Welcome, Force_Chick. It's good to have you here. I also have a thing for Orlando , although, of course, he isn't as hot as our main man Den! -----signature----- Non so d'onde viene quel tenero affetto. http://boards.outerrimsieges.com
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